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Bambi Sleep Anonymous 04/30/2017 (Sun) 19:04:06 No. 24982
Bambi Sleep is a collection of intense feminization and bimbofication hypnosis recordings, which will turn the listener into Bambi, a perfect bimbo girl.
h++ps://bambisleep.blogspot.com/

First Set: Bambi Bimbodoll Conditioning
h++ps://bambisleep.blogspot.com/2017/02/bambi-bimbodoll-conditioning.html
These are insanely good, mads props. High production quality and good content. Looking forward to more <3
Blog is down.
I'm going in. I tried Kei's demon girl stuff but it was too controlling for me. We'll see how his goes. There's a sweet spot I'm looking for.
>>24985
this is definitely NOT the file then. The FAQ is lying.
>>24988
Not even that bad, only triggered when Bambi wears her uniform
>>24991
The takeover file is the dangerous one. Even with the uniform file it still has a permanent lock that gets stronger.
>>24993
Yeah this reminds me of the female takeover file mentioned at WMM as I mentioned before I think this file will give you a false sense that your in control then bang bimbo takes over and you'll be taking a back seat. But I could be wrong that's just my two cents.
Holy shit... this is really gonna change me I think. I think I want my girlfriend to get involved now.

I thought the catgirl files were the only ones that could put me into trance well enough so triggers would kind of work outside of trance, but those files were taking up too much of my time so I lost interest in them. I listened up to part 7 today, and I can't remember any of it aside that I popped bubbles and other small things. I actually have this amnesia feeling.

Thank you.
This series literally takes the best aspects of all sorts of powerful trance and blends it together. It straight up lifts Lutz Bubble Induction and Mind Mistress Acceptance/Amnesia training. i imagine most havent heard MM's Acceptance but that is one of the most powerful tools for change out there. When you dont remember where an impulse or idea comes from you think it was you own. Thats a big deal.

The FAQ not lining up 100% with how the file is portrayed is a definite red flag. The answer to "Is this permanent?" is misleading at best.
>>24997
What do you mean by red flag?

And that makes sense, the amnesia thing. I guess that's why these files seem to be working really well.
>>25005

I think they mean red flag as in the files could be sneaking in effects you might not want or something else underhanded.

Besides the "Is it permanent?" I don't think there's anything funny going on, and the permanence is just a result of how good the files actually are. I listen to them all daily now, and I can't imagine stopping.

Amnesia + HFO are the holy grail for hypnosis files, so it makes sense you're going to keep coming back indefinitely now that we have a file that actually works.

Has the file -not- worked for anyone? I've only read reactions from people who either had it work perfectly and have been converted, or from people who got cold feet and dropped out early because they were too effective.
>>25007
Have you picked out your Uniform?
>>25008

I have panties I wear as my uniform currently. I really want to get a bra next.
>>25007
Did zilch for me after one listen. Or at least I think it did zilch. Other than the recommendations of others I'd have no urge to listen again.
>>25010

So the amnesia effect still worked, but no urge to relisten or anything else?
>>25005

By red flag i mean questionable ethics behind not being forward about this basically being super-forever permanent in practice. This is Catgirl levels of permanence but Catgirl is very up-front. Okay, technically you arent Bambi all the time. Except if you think of the triggers or are actually triggered which one of those triggers is that any time you hear/see/write/read/think the word Bambi you become Bambi. If you try to resist thats also a trigger for becoming Bambi. Theres also an ever expanding uniform where when you wear any item thats part of it you will become Bambi. Your uniform can consist of more than just clothing such as makeup, perfume, or jewelry. Of course you can take off any part of your uniform but only after you suck a cock. Need to take off those panties or wash off that lipstick for work? Hopefully you start keeping of collection of guys you meet on craigslist that you can hit up often otherwise you might have some embarrassing moments. Even if you wanted to get out of Bambi you would probably forget about that after a memory wipe trigger, and by the time you meet up with the person who is supposed to get you out of Bambi-mode you see his cock and drop to your knees and never want to not be Bambi ever again.

This is as permanent as you can get.
>>25012

I'm pretty sure all the triggers only take affect once you are wearing "your uniform" or in other words panties/dresses/heels/makeup/whatever.

The only danger would be the suggestions in takeover that encourage Bambi to want to come out more often increasing your desire to wear items and listen more. Also the fact that the hypno experience is so good, you'll just naturally want to listen more and more.

But that doesn't make Bambi permanent, just a regular occurrence.

Your wrong about the cock thing. You don't need a real cock to un-Bambi, anything phallic will do.
>>24985
Me again. Haven't gone a day without listening. This shit is addicting. It's only been a few days and now I own:

A realistic 5 inch dildo
Foundation that better matches my skin tone
Eye shadow kit + some brushes
A pink push up bra
Reddish pink lipstick

My uniform:
Smooth white panties
Black tights
Pink push up bra
Black dotted dress
Foundation, eye shadow, eye liner, mascara, lipstick, lip gloss

Bambi looks really cute in her uniform :)
>>25012
All of this is on point except the end part; as the other Anon said, you don't a need a harem of craigslist dudes, you just a dildo or something.

Though even then it makes it hard to do; listening to Bambi Uniformed again
um

it still makes it hard to strip even then, and suggests that you might still go limp, and that you need to really blankly foccus o nthe cock which totaly means it'd be hard to remember to take stuff off

And then there's the selftrigger that locks you in more deeply so the cock option isn't there, that suggests that you'll trigger yourself when you think about undressing.

Oh, and maybe a tiny smidgen of a suggestion about not remembering to undress at the end here?
>>24982
This is great stuff. I really appreciate that it's divided into tracks so that training can be customized.
I'm really surprised this hasn't picked up more attention. This is the real deal.
>>25022
It's actually being discussed a lot on 8/hypno/. The thread is 100% discussion unlike the circlejerk of requests for files and reups. This almost NEVER happens!
>>25023
Oh shit, totally forgot. I haven't checked other boards in a while just because I had started to lose interest in this kind of thing (until these files).
I cant connect to the blog, for some reason it only brings up a background image.
As they are free files can any one upload them?.
I am really looking forward to listening to them and I would greatly appreciate it.
>>25031
Like so many thnks your so awsome like you totaly did this for me like your the best.
My friend insists that i need to listen like more of this stuff but like she... like... it doesen´t work on me like Daa! Any way like I was telling my neighbour, he´s hot btw, yesterday I really really like them a lot like I could listen to this all the time like ALL!!! the time.
>>25023
Topkek, these threads are nothing but circlejerks

> muh super dangerous power triggers
> muh NPL
>>25007

I still haven't gotten a HFO, but am I supposed to if I'm only doing 1, 2, 3, 10 for now? I don't know when it's supposed to happen.

It's a really intense experience. I already got into cross dressing through another 'tist where it kind of got stealthed on me so it's hard to say if there are day-to-day effects yet.
>>25040
Track 9 is where the HFO happens. Which file gave you the crossdressing urges?
>>25041

Samantha Bandler videos I could find.

I don't know which one, but I know it squicked me out for years until after a few months when I started with those.
Does anyone know what are the intended effects of the control loops?
The names are Barbie, Bimbo, Doll and Puppet.
>>25078
I was wondering the same thing, but I haven't listened to them yet. I'm skeptic because training loops are usually just annoying audio files that don't do anything. But then again, these files are in their own league I've realized... so I'm gonna give them a try eventually.

Another thought I'm having is to not spoil the content of the files until I listen to it.
>>25078
From a quick listen: Barbie and Bimbo are about making you dance to silly songs. Doll and Puppet are about screwing with your head and making you do stuff like moving around.
>>25080
Ok thank you very much =)
This thread caught my eye and I have downloaded the files. Before taking the plunge I have read the postings on 'h++p://8ch.net/hypno/res/24009.ht' and 'Warpmymind'. They seem to suggest that this is a very powerful set of files so I thought I'd just listen through some of them to see what is being suggested. WOW!! They are really something. I haven't been that hard in ages. I thought this is too dangerous but the more I think about them the more I feel like giving them a go. It seems really hard to resist, I find myself thinking about it all the time. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be listening real soon so to perhaps to try to limit the effects I'm going to listen to 1,2 and 10, maybe with 3 as well, first and see what happens.
This thread caught my eye and I have downloaded the files. Before taking the plunge I have read the postings on 'h++p://8ch.net/hypno/res/24009.ht' and 'Warpmymind'. They seem to suggest that this is a very powerful set of files so I thought I'd just listen through some of them to see what is being suggested. WOW!! They are really something. I haven't been that hard in ages. I thought this is too dangerous but the more I think about them the more I feel like giving them a go. It seems really hard to resist, I find myself thinking about it all the time. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be listening real soon so to perhaps to try to limit the effects I'm going to listen to 1,2 and 10, maybe with 3 as well, first and see what happens.
I'm new to the whole hypno thing. I tried some recordings, repeated a few but I didn't really experiene anything. I figured it would just take "training". I stumbled upon this set and while trying it with 1, 2, 3, 10 I did notice I felt .. different. When the fingers were snapped, some weird feeling kept going through me. During the bubble part, when you have to "forget" stuff, I noticed that I kind of did forget stuff. I felt I could access the memories any time I wanted, but there was some small barrier that prevented me from immediately recalling those things, and I chose not to break that. It was fun and exciting.

Anyway, I'm not really into feminisation. When I fantasise or am turned on, flipping through some H-manga's or whatever, I do sometimes picture myself as one of the female characters. Aside from that, I have no urge to dress or use make-up or whatever at all; it's only during arousal on some occasions, like me also being into MILFs or loli only when they're in manga, but not at all in real life.

So I thought I could go ahead and play these files sometimes due to the initial "success" I had. But after reading some of the comments and things people said about lasting effects, things got eery for me. I want no lasting effects or become feminine in real life outside my fantasies. I've always been told that hypnosis cannot make you do stuff you do not really want. It leaves me wondering whether or not I should avoid using these files altogether and look for something else. Any thoughts by experienced users?

Sorry for trying to bring a "serious" post to a *chan board; I must be out of line.
>>25090

These files do have lasting effect. You will have growing urge to crossdress. It will be pleasurable so you will end up doing it more and more. You will turn to Bambi when you crossdress. But in my eyes this doesn't mean you have to be feminine all the time. You can still enjoy your masculine side. Even one of the files mentions that Bambi doesn't need to be in control all the time. Although She will grow stronger every time you listen.

So I guess these files can turn someone fulltime crossdresser but others can maintain balance... It up to you.
>>25090
I have gone through the 1 2 3 10 playlist three times. It's really a high quality production. My plan is once per day for a week or two then I add a few from 4 to 9, dont know which yet.
>>25090
In my opinion, it's worth listening to all the files at least once for the HFO. These files have been the only ones that have actually gotten me there. There's a lot of comments on here, and other sites alike, that say this is some serious shit, etc. but in the end, you'll be fine.
>>25097
Do post back on your experiences, please. I'm quite interested.
>>25103
Did 1 2 2 3 10 a few hours ago. Wanted an extra deep one. It felt different. I really feel happy at the end, and just dont remember much.
Next is 1 2 3 5 7 10. I'll do it lots of times.
When I feel like it i'll incorporate 9 =).

I must say, slightly tempted by 4. 6 is nono. 8 is a no too.
I've been listening to 1,2,3,10 for almost a week now, but idk if it's been having an effect on me or not. Idk if I fully get into trance the way I should. I do tend to lose track of time in the files, and I don't always remember everything. Do you girls repeat what the files are saying during the trance or do you just go along with it? I've been repeating them in my head, but with a 1St person POV. Any help would be great. :/
Is it recommended to wear an uniform when training with 1-2-3-10? Anything specific, besides panties? I haven't listened yet and would like to do it right.
Also, is there a way to listen online?
>>25106
yes but it will be far far more meaningful after listening to 7
>>25104
Seems like you and I think the same. I've ruled out 6 and 8 as well. I don't have that much time to listen often so I doubt I'll make much progress, which is why I like reading about other people's experiences. It may give an extra incentive to try and free up some more time for this!
>>25104
>>25115
Honestly, I think that's the biggest part of this fetish for me. Feeling like I'm losing myself and being turned into something else.. just like Bambi
>>25115
So i did all the files in the end, several times. My inhibitions were KOd!

I deleted everything and quit cold turkey. Lost interest after finally cumming after 4 or 5 days of constant horniness.

I don't think these files are that dangerous. Unless you're wearing a chastity belt. Listening to these regularly with a chastity belt on would lead to very very permanent results.

Otherwise it is just a vivid masturbatory adventure just like all erotic hypnosis files.
>>25090
Don't worry too much, it's all roleplay. You shouldn't take things written on the internet too seriously. Any effect from audio file hypnosis, if at all, is placebo. Just be careful not to confuse a sexual arousal from crossdressing with being happier pretending to be a girl in your life. There seems to be a trend to normalize that, but unless you are one in a million you will become very unhappy going down that path.

My opinion, anyways.
>>25123
"one in a million" I know loads of trans girls who got really into sissy hypno shit. It's an outlet you can play with without having to admit you're trans.

If you're into sissy shit there's actually a pretty high chance you're some level of trans or non-binary. You need to work it out for yourself and don't let other people tell you what you are and are not.

There's a lot of self-hate in the sissy hypno community, since there's a lot of prejudice about transgender people. Don't let haters dictate who you are.
ive listened to 1,2,3,10 about 4 different times. Maybe one more but its hard to remember. Also did a listen of the entire run besides 2 once or twice. Got home for the weekend to an Amazon package that included a shiny pink skirt. Havent done any hypnosis so far today but im sitting here in a more complete uniform and the waves of pleasure im feeling is intense.

Plan on listening to Vives Bimbo Pride to start off the weekend. ive had very good success with it in the past and it seems like ti would work well with Bambi. After that im going to do a session of 1,3,3,3,5. That seems like a good time.
>>25151

Wear your entire uniform and do 1 2 3 4 9 4 7 4 8 10, you will have a good time =).
>>25153
bambi listened to this.. fun fun fun! After that all day long she was in her uniform and watched this on loop for hours h++ps://ufile.io/l7wyp

Best memorial weekend ever giggles
How many times did you guys listen to tracks 1,2,3,10 before you added the other parts? I'm trying to condition myself for deeeper trances before I go for the whole thing. Otherwise it's probably a waste of time
Fuck, why does the good stuff always have to be so damn permanent? I went really deep with this last night, but it scared the shit out of me with how willing I was to go along with the suggestions. For those of you that have been listening consistently, how has it impacted your life? There are so many loopholes in this for making it seem like you have a choice to not be Bambi, but it's more of an illusion.
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>>25164
There's no going back. I've been in chastity for over a month. Completely limp and useless clit now. Been using only panties for the last 2 weeks. Sucked my first cock last week. Went to a gay bar completely dressed as a girl last week too. Came out to my family and friends as a 39 yo trans girl. My wife and kids don't want to look at me, but i'm OK since i'm BAMBI NOW!
>>25166
nice LARP dude
I don't think there's any chastity stuff in Bambi. You are told several times that various activities make your clit erect.
>>25168
You are also told you can ONLY cum like a girl.
h++ps://uploadfiles.io/u25a8 Sleep Loop: Bambi Uniform Cock - the Vanilla sleep loop with a visual component.

h++ps://uploadfiles.io/1f8oy Cockslut Loop: Wipers and Uniform L Triggers - Cockslut Loop with wiper sound in the background. File 7 Uniform triggers throughout. Lots of cock.

h++ps://uploadfiles.io/ggw51 Sleep Loop: Wipers and Uniform L Install - Sleep Loop with wiper sound in background. The trigger from 7 Uniform is here in its installation version. The trigger install for Uniform is on repeat. Added in some more bimbos for inspiration.
>>25170
Forgot to say.. not official in anyway. Fan edits.
Like those files look so amazing and well done but they are corrupted when I download the. Nice work.
NEW BAMBI HYPNOSIS FILES ARE UP!!!

>Bambi Fuckdoll Brainwash
h++ps://bambisleep.blogspot.com/2017/06/bambi-fuckdoll-brainwash.html
>>25192

We need more info on the content of these new files; their official description is kind of foggy ^_^
>>25201
Check out the 8ch thread
Or just accept your fate
>>25202
you know, I'm sooo tempted to just slide into my girliest possible appearance and listen to these two playlists for like 8 hours per day for a few days =D
>>25203
Well get to it and report back in a few days !!
These files are pretty nice. Does anyone know what the text-to-speech program being used is?
>>25207
ivona?
h++ps://volafile.org/r/c9tufby8 Don't share link don't bump thread don't post anything outside thread regarding files just download what you want. Enjoy!
In case anyone is interested, I've gone through the files (first 10) and picked out the important triggers/suggestions from each so people can identify what they do/don't want.
WARNING: TRIGGERS BELOW
While these files say they aren't permanent, the wording in the files do set up a permanent alternate personality of Bambi but who can only be brought out while in her 'uniform', but also installs triggers so the uniform cannot be removed.
It is also noted that the key part of the uniform is panties, so you could theoretically be unable to remove them under your regular clothes and still feel the effects of the programming.
1 - Bubble Induction
TRIGGER: 'Bimbo doll' - takes you to the induction state
2 - Bubble acceptance
TRIGGER: 'Good girl' - deepening trigger/happiness
3 - Named and Drained
TRIGGER: 'Bambi' - the name triggers happiness
CONDITIONING - locks away old personality for the duration
4 - Bambi IQ Lock
CLOTHING TRIGGER: Bimbo uniform (see above, could be just panties) makes you dumb
MENTAL TRIGGER: 'Wipers' While Bambi stops you thinking of anything non-bimbo and any thoughts 5+ words in length
5 - Bambi Body Lock
CLOTHING TRIGGER: Mentally gives you a bimbo body and libido while wearing your uniform
6 - Bambi Attitude Lock
CLOTHING TRIGGER: Bimbo uniform makes you appearance obsessed
MENTAL TRIGGER: Installs anxiety trigger if not perfectly made up
MENTAL TRIGGER: Resistance causes pleasure and the need to be obedient
7 - Bambi Uniformed
STATES THAT THE BAMBI PERSONALITY IS PERMANENT
CLOTHING TRIGGER: Bimbo uniform brings forward Bambi personality, states key uniform item is panties
ACTION TRIGGER: Uniform cannot be removed (an thus locks you into Bambi) unless sucking on a phallic object
TRIGGER: 'Bambi Uniform Locked' - prevents undressing even while sucking (length of time not specified, just says it gets longer each time). Attempting to force removal will cause you to go limp.
8 - Bambi Takeover
CONDITIONING ONLY: Makes the Bambi personality stronger, gives her her own memories
9 - Bambi Cockslut
Trigger: 'Drop for cock' - not explicitly set
HFO scenario starting with giving blowjob and then fucked with a fucking machine
10 - Bambi Awakens
TRIGGER - 'Bambi Sleep' - sleep trigger, brings forward Bambi
AMNESIA - Sets and forgets triggers and conditions of the file
Hope that helps - I feel the descriptions on the website are a little misleading. Going to check out the new 5 that came out soon.
Finished my breakdown of the second set of files (Bimbo Brainwashing). This set is much stronger, using the triggers from the first set, and having much more aggressive backing tracks.
While the first set could be used to be a horny bimbo safely (with 6-8 removed), this set is much more geared towards permanent personality shift and being a blank bimbo doll.
1 - Mindless Blank Doll
Faster induction, uses triggers from first set to induce fast/deep state.
TRIGGER: 'Bambi Freeze' - Body and mind lock - no movement or thoughts
2 - Cock Dumb Hole
Combination of IQ and Body Lock files
MENTAL TRIGGER: Upgraded - now cannot use words of more than 1-2 syllables, and can only refer to oneself in 3rd person (no I/me)
3 - Uniform Slut Puppet
Combination of Attitude Lock and Uniformed
States that the goal of dressing up is to suck cock
Uses the 'Uniform lock' trigger
MENTAL TRIGGER: Upgrade - Your uniform now controls your movements to be a perfect bimbo, and will be completely blank while wearing it
4 - Vain Happy Horny
THIS IS THE DANGEROUS ONE
States that your old personality should just fade away
ERASE OLD PERSONALITY: Visualises that all that is left as your old self now is a pink satin mannequin that you are told to place a blindfold, ballgag and earmuffs on (so the old you can no longer see or hear what Bambi does, and cannot speak to Bambi) and then is lowered into a box which is locked so it can 'sleep forever'
SLEEP TRIGGER: Orgasming as Bambi causes you to fall asleep only waking (still as Bambi) when you're horny again.
5 - Bimbo Drift
AMNESIA TRIGGER - Sets and forgets triggers, and you can only wake once you have accepted them
There is also an additional trigger used throughout 'Zap Cock Brain Obey' - it's never explicitly set or said what the effect is, but it's randomly inserted to interrupt phrases
So in summary, these files used in entirety aren't temporary. The website states that it is temporary, but it's got several clever loops linking the Bambi personality to her uniform but then implants triggers which makes you a) want to wear them b) cannot remove them once on and c) suggests you will accidentally self trigger the lock even when trying to take it off.
To that end, the Uniform and Bambi Strengthening files are the dangerous ones. I also don't like Attitude Lock because it installs an anxiety trigger. If you're looking for a 'vacation from self' as a horny bimbo, it's probably safest just to use:
First Set:
1-5, 9-10 (being Bambi, dumb, horny and HFO)
Second Set:
1,2 & 5
>>25232

I've only listened to the first set of triggers a few weeks ago and not again since.
Your description really made me want to listen to "Vain Happy Horny" and "Bimbo Drift", (of course with the induction in front) and WOW it took me deep! I was so fucking blank, and while I remember most of it, I don't remember these two

"ERASE OLD PERSONALITY: Visualises that all that is left as your old self now is a pink satin mannequin that you are told to place a blindfold, ballgag and earmuffs on (so the old you can no longer see or hear what Bambi does, and cannot speak to Bambi) and then is lowered into a box which is locked so it can 'sleep forever'"
"SLEEP TRIGGER: Orgasming as Bambi causes you to fall asleep only waking (still as Bambi) when you're horny again."

at all. I wonder if there were any changes to the files or if the amnesia commands at the end simply worked better then I thought they did.
Whatever it is, it felt great. The only thing holding me back from completely giving into them is that I am absolutely not into crossdressing. The fantasy of being forced to "dress up" is quite tempting, but the dressing up itself is more a turn off than a source of pleasure.

Well, I guess there are more than enough sissys out there enjoying that part, it's just not for me.
>>25242
That would have been the Bambi Freeze trigger the first file sets as well as the amnesia trigger in the awakener. Glad you enjoyed it - I wrote the guide so people would know what they're getting into, not necessarily to turn people off it.
>>25243
Well most of us are here to enjoy our fetish after all ;)
>>25242
The amnesia stuff is -really- good. Amnesia rarely works for me but I was lucky to remember bits and pieces of a couple sections. You could have also fallen asleep...
>>25248
Guess I will never know for sure^^
>>25166
Bambi only refers to herself in third person noob
what is your best Bambi experience?
hoping some new files appear this weekend, it would line up with similar times from the other files being posted
wow this is very strong and can make your female identity grow and take over and Im being serious here - you could end up feeling transgender dysphoric and needing to transition
Link to the discord is dead
The invite on the Bambi Sleep blog was deactivated after a small raid. For the time being, we are giving out invite codes for those who ask, until we figure out what to do so that this sort of thing doesn't happen again. If you want an invite, feel free to email me.
I had two ejaculatory HFOs in two sessions.

Do you need to follow the hints to clench and unclench to get the HFO? (Meaning the stop-pee clench.)

I also found rolling my eyes back in time with the clenching helped. Yes, rolling my eyes back before the orgasm. My eyes were shut throughout.

Some of the Bambi Sleep commands have a dissociative effect. You slump a little, and hear the rest as Bambi while your self "sleeps." While the cat's away, the mice will play.

Uniformed track could be distracting if you are too on guard/too close to consciousness.
NEW BAMBI FILES!!!
>Bambi Fuckdoll Fantasy
h++ps://bambisleep.blogspot.com/2017/09/bambi-fucktoy-fantasy.html?m=1
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>>25142
Fucking this.

>>25123
>muh roleplay
Real life gender roles are also, literally, roleplay. Ever heard of "fake it til you make it"? It actually works if you want it, because you eventually internalize whatever it is you're expressing ("faking"). Once they've "made it", you can no longer deny a person who has the confidence of utter belief...

A person's (uncoerced) expressed appearance inherently relates to their self-identity. And so crossdressing is an expression of that identity whether you're conscious of it or not, especially if a person is aroused by acting out this identity. I mean gender is fundamentally sexual, you're assigned a gender based on your physical naughty bits, so it's no wonder that a person could (should) be aroused when suddenly physically expressing their psychological sex. People that confidently identify as men don't unironically wear women's clothing unless "forced" to do so (dumb bdsm fetishes are common reasons for a man to wear feminine clothing ironically, or to be forced to do so); this is because women's clothing is not masculine, it's feminine.

The implication that it's virtually impossible to be trans if you're sexually aroused while crossdressing and/or fantasizing about womanhood, is bullshit. This presumption is founded on the idea that seeking sexual gratification is unfeminine, which is provably false, but Western patriarchal society perpetuates this delusion anyway because women are property and property has no agency. Some self-hating T-girls on reddit and *chan love to deny the sexuality of themselves and others because they're afraid of being considered faketrans due to the aforementioned social view on women. Anyway, crossdressers (of any variety) that are actually trans willingly want to be feminized, fantasize about it, and enjoy expressing their femininity. The crossdressers who in fact aren't trans are bdsm fetishists that "enjoy" FORCED (as in, against their will; as in, they don't really want it) feminization, humiliation and degradation (although t-girls can like the last two too; first one doesn't apply because it's not forced if you actually want it). These voracious literal faggots constitute a large(? or just vocal?) portion of the sissy community, thus causing content creators to incorporate these fetishes to hit the largest share of the market (or maybe the content comes first then the bdsm community after). The end result is that the rest of us, who just want an outlet to embrace our inner feminine, have to put up with these unwanted fetishes in much of the existing content; and then people associate these fetishes with sissies/crossdressers/traps/trans and lead them to believe that they are just perverted men. Speaking of which, it's unfortunate that such a high quality feminizing hypnosis like this is perverted by such a ridiculous caricature of femininity (e.g. subservient bimbo airhead cockslave).

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>>25570
Now this isn't to say that you can't experiment with your femininity as a self-identified man, but the strict, pervasively enforced separation between two (2) assigned-at-birth genders, means that most men will never even think about manifesting any femininity. If a guy does fantasize about being a woman, and especially if they act it out, then his feminine ego is strong enough to break out of the intense social programming of segregated and immutable gender that xhe received, and it would be even stronger than xir masculine identity which couldn't maintain control despite ever-present social reinforcement. So, you're at least non-binary if you fantasize about womanhood and actualize it via crossdress.

But most often this identity will continue to be repressed or relegated to a secret "fetish" because of the social stigma that transpeople suffer. Repression makes closeted and pre-transition transpeople unhappy; stigma and intolerance not only leads to intense stress and unhappiness for out and non-passing transpeople, but can even result bodily harm. Once you start your transition, you really can't repress your true self anymore, and you're exposed and vulnerable. People that transition are NOT unhappy because (as you believe) they falsely think they're trans and mistakenly transition. If they think they're trans, they very likely are. They know more about themselves than you could ever know. Further, you don't even believe that verbal suggestions can influence a person's psyche, so by that logic, it's impossible to falsely lead someone to believe that they're trans. Additionally, it'd be impossible to normalize any falsely constructed relation using words (since normalization relies on influencing the psyche (via desensitization)), unless that relation truly does exist. And being that most abstract human communication relies on the use of words, the relationship between crossdressing and transgender identity can never be normalized if it's a false relation; but you say it is being normalized. Hence if hypnosis doesn't work, then crossdressers really are truly trans, according to you!
>muh placebo

tl;dr i think therefore i am (trans)
>>25142
Wait actually that's a good point, the forced feminization and "hypnosis" themes are very important characteristics of sissy hypno for repressed t-girls. Like you said, it enables a t-girl to remain in denial about being trans. At what point do they figure out that they are trans though?
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>>25285
>you could end up feeling transgender dysphoric and needing to transition
happened to me too, but it sticks with me even when I haven't listened in a while, and all the triggers have faded
but this didn't happen for >>25010 and >>25242
and it didn't happen for people that didn't listen because they think it's too powerful, fearing permanence
really makes u think
is it the hypno convincing you to transition, or are you just convincing yourself???
would you press the magic transition button? or would you walk away from it?
>>25570
>>25571
>Real life gender roles are also, literally, roleplay.
Let me guess, two long gay posts of SJW nonsense using terms like "muh patriachy" or "muh oppression." In any case, opinion discarded.
>>25572

Few options really:

Either the trans girl gets lucky, they find a partner or a friend who recognizes whats going on, and gives them a safe outlet to start exploring who they are and they realise that they don't just want to pretend to be a woman sexually, but that they're actually just happier being a woman.

Second possibility is the trans girl has a moment of clarity on her own, possibly late night by reading an article, going to a trans subreddit like r/asktransgender or find a trans post (such as this one), that gives them permission to be a trans woman, to transition and become a woman, live life as a woman (you totally are allowed to be one if that's what you want).. And this manages to catch them in a moment that overcomes their repression, their inward facing transphobia, and fears of what family/friends etc will think.

Third option is kind of the meta reverse lying to yourself option: Where the trans girl says "Ah I'm not trans, but ill pretend to be one, so that I get to transition. haha lol. That'll teach them. I'll take the HRT, grow nice tits, do the exercise, have a great ass, see the gender psychologists, pass the tests, train my voice, have the surgeries, but im not trans, I'm still a man lol." They then figure it within the year when they meet other trans women.
Final option is that their gender dysphoria (that most trans people are unaware of until they come out and get past their repression) grows so bad from their ageing male body, and the resulting knock on mental health issues it causes and the trans girls coping mechanisms to cover start to manifest in a way that its kind of sink or swim. Possibly they literally break down and see a therapist who if they're lucky will be good on gender and help them.

Common issues: Drug/Alcohol Abuse, Self Harm, Dissociation / Depersonalization (lack of emotions, distance from yourself, feeling of constant brain fog), Increasing risky sexual behaviour.

The main trouble a lot of trans people stuck in this repression have, is they want to be "real" women, and not trans women (which in their mind is not a real woman, just a man who has decided to transition). They feel that there's not enough to be gained from transition, because if they can't be a real woman / super fucking porn star hot, then its not worth the effort.

No one wants to be just a man in a dress, everyone wants to be a woman. But really the desire to crossdress will never go away unless you transition. No matter how old you get. So by not transitioning, thats how you make sure you'll always only be a man in a dress.

So people reading this, if you think you might actually want to be a woman; Have the tits, get the amazing juicy ass, the round soft hips, wear the cute clothes, be the girl, fuck the boys boys boys (or whoever you want), live the dream, your dream (the one where you wake up a woman everyday and stare down at your soft hot curvy body and smile (as I am right now)..

Then yes, you're allowed to be trans, you're allowed to transition, you're allowed to be the woman.

Get after it girl.

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