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I just came without getting hard Anonymous 05/22/2017 (Mon) 19:55:27 No. 31537
I've been doing the "only stroke/massage your dick when it's soft" thing for about 5 days, 4 or so hours a day, without ever getting a full or even half of an erection, and all of a sudden my dick just started dripping small drops of cum.

It feels awesome to have done this without even a hard on, but i'm sure i'll still be able to get hard if I try to stimulate myself for something longer than 5 seconds. My training has been positive however in that my sensation has increased massively when soft, even moreso than when edging in the past, and I hope to completely train my brain to only be aroused when soft and to never get hard again.

All that said, what just happened was very interesting. If anyone else is trying or has succesfully done this, feel free to discuss it here.
I like the sissy lifestyle but I have little or no knowledge of this. Care to explain? How do?
You basically only touch yourself when your penis is soft and stop immediately once it starts getting hard. The idea is that your brain will associate it being soft with arousal, and hardness with the lack of it. Over time, your mind will strengthen this association to the point were it will seek to mantain your penis flacid as a way of prolonging your pleasure.

I've heard from people that have done this that it takes about two weeks to be unable to get an erection even if you try a lot. Personally, a few hours after making this thread I managed to cum while almost completely flacid, with the aforementioned time of practice i mentioned in the OP.

I'm not sure it's reversible, so I'm debating wether to continue doing this or not.
"Not sure it's reversible" <- my question.

if u r cute u have my permission to film yourself and post it here. k thanks
so not looking at porn when doing it?
I look at porn and then when it starts getting hard i switch to something completely unrelated that demands some degree of my attention and takes my thoughts off from sexual stuff. You can read articles online or watch videos, for example.

Then when it gets soft again (say in about 20 seconds to 1 minute) you can keep going.

Rinse and repeat.
I've sort of managed to do this some time ago.My only issue is that I become extremely sensitive when soft and aroused(cumming in les that 1 minutes sensitive).Does this happen to you as well or am I just a freak?
I've noticed a large increase in sensitivity, but it still takes me a while to cum. Maybe I'll have that issue in the future, hopefully not.
Wait, that means constantly teasing yourself and not cumming for 2 weeks? not sure I would survive
Nope.It just means trying your best to do what >>31539 said.
There's no issue if you DO cum but the whole idea is that you couple hornyness with being limp.That obviosuly implies staying horny for a longer period of time.Coupling this with pillow humping might help as well.I know it's helping in my case.
but I get hard quickly so I have to stop and do this again and its tantalizing and I'll have my balls aching badly
I think for it to be consolidated or become very limp you need to go for 2 weeks. In my case it took me 3-5 days to cum while soft, and then from there i could do it again with ease. So in theory u gotta wait for a few days and then you're set. It also depends on the individual though, so maybe itll take longer for u.
I too have done something similar. The rest of this post has a lot of sis-science so. You're basically giving yourself erectile dysfunction. It is reversible, assuming you didn't let your cock and balls fall off. I coupled this ED training with ruined orgasms as well, because right when I pass the edge and ejaculate my dick suddenly gets hard from the involuntary contractions. And as >>31542 said, you just relax your muscles and wait for yourself go limp, although I keep watching the pornography instead of turning away.

Anyway, try not to increase the blood pressure in your cock. Your penis gets erect when your blood vessels dilate and cause blood to fill your penis sponge, and the erect tissue constricts your exit veins which traps blood inside the penis, which maintains your erection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis#Erection). Although wiki only mentions blood vessels, I'm pretty sure your puborectalis-pubococcygeus muscle complex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levator_ani) (or just PC) actually helps push blood (or helps dilate the blood vessels?) into your penis too (like when you actively "squeeze" to increase pressure in the penis). So all you have to do is halt the feedback loop by relaxing your penis/ass muscle(s). This training should make your limp clit size even smaller than before, since you'll be passively keeping blood out of the penis without thinking.

Now here's some theory crafting as to how the ED is maintained and how to reverse it: I think that the default state of this muscle group ends up more relaxed and/or weaker than pre-ED, and so the blood easily flows back out. So to reverse the ED: you have to try re-training your PC to sustain a penis contraction for a long period of time. Easier said than done, because you had just reprogrammed yourself to reflexively relax down there whenever blood flows into your penis, and since you're not getting hard nor masturbating while hard, whatever muscles involved will have weakened. If you can get ANY amount of hardness at all, for any reason, even for a microsecond, you can reverse it (if you can't, it's probably still reversible but I dunno). Just repeat the circumstances of the hardness, and focus on what felt different in your body than your normal limp state. You'll need to stimulate the penis EVERY time it gets hard and squeeze that PC like a champ!!! Even though you'll likely go limp immediately after cessation of stimulation/contraction, just work towards prolonging the hardness each time. And stop stimulating your cock when it's completely limp obviously. Position is important too: for some reason it was way easier for me to get/stay hard in a captain morgan pose (maybe blood from elevated leg increases pressure in pubic region?); laying on my back trying to cum on my face I go insta-limp.

One last note: since I ruined every penile orgasm, when I eventually reversed the ED (for my once every six months gf {^.^}), my ejaculations were really weak and fucked up, like I could feel some kind of tingling premature leaking sensation at the tip of my penis that I felt would lead into a ruined orgasm if I followed through on it. I don't know but it worked out in the end

Second note: I didn't mention prostate stimulation but that's an important factor too, but I actually kinda forgot how that factored in to all of this. Normally prostate stimulation is supposed to allow you to get harder, especially when you clamp down with your PC/ass. I *think* I ED trained with an anal toy, but then tried to reverse it without the toy (I didn't want risk reverting into limp clit anal slut mode again). The reversal was kinda slow, but when I did cave in and use the toy, I'm pretty sure I was able to get/stay hard a lot easier.

tl;dr: yes cumming limp is fucking hot and yes it's reversible also anal toy can help maybe
I'm on hrt and cypro keeps it nice and limp.
So... In conclusion... Is this reversible or not?
2 questions:

1. Does doing this mean you end up not getting erections ever? Like, you don't even get "morning wood" anymore?

2. Girly-girl says this is reversible. Anyone else try this and reverse it later? What is your experience?
Yes it's reversible, but it's not easy.


TL;DR preceding bigger description: You will get morning wood, and it is reversible. Like >>32306 said, you're giving yourself ED. Your penis will stop working like it has - getting erections will be very difficult and maintaining them will be extremely difficult.

It's kinda weird but yes, you get morning wood. What you're basically doing with this process is sort of editing the flow of events that your body follows when you /consciously/ process arousal. Your body used to go:
[Unconsciously] See something arousing -> get an erection -> [consciously] notice source of arousal/notice erection -> 'take care' of erection -> blow your load -> satisfaction/reenforcement.

By following this process, you basically are initially breaking that feedback loop and teaching your brain that erections are bad because they explicitly result in a lack of satisfaction. Initially you're very explicit about this and it's 100% a conscious effort, but your brain is lazy and so will begin to automate it. Eventually, you will get to the point where two things will happen:

-Your body will begin to process arousal differently and the way you notice arousal will shift somewhat

-The 'threshhold' for your body to notice an undesirable erection and deal with it will drop; where you used to have to consciously go 'oh, right, my dick's hard, I'm not going to touch it at all', you'll eventually hit a point where as soon as you notice your clit is hard, it will already be softening.

So in my case for example, I do sometimes wake up with an erection, and in the sort of initial waking-up sleep fog my erection's pretty much a normal, male erection. But as soon as I'm awake enough to really register that I've got it, or move to touch it, my clit softens back up, and my sense of arousal relocates itself as my body remembers how it's "meant" to process arousal (i.e., my nipples will become erect and itch a bit and my asshole will twitch).

Fair warning though: because it involves pleasurable stimulus, reversing this is hard work. I'd say it's taking me four or so times longer to reverse than it did to cultivate.
Wow thanks for the info!
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Very interesting. You mentioned that it will change the way one processes arousal - how, exactly? Of course I can't even begin to imagine what a twitching hole and erect nipples mean as primary signals for arousal, but is it more mental, or 'full-body'?

For me standard, penile arousal always seems to be a bit of a rush, a dominant testosterone trip. Does not being able to use your penis make you feel more submissive?


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